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Thursday, July 19, 2012

Buyouts for ATR teachers? Anyone Home?

Chancellor Dennis Walcott

Just about two months ago, 974 readers saw an article in this blog  about Chancellor Walcott's plan to offer retirement buyouts to ATR teachers.  The UFT, though, doesn't seem to know anything about it.  Here is a message from an anonymous ATR teacher:
No offer.  I called the UFT and spoke to a nasty woman who said, "We don't have a buyout."  I asked about the negotiations and where they stand and she repeated, "We don't have a buyout." Does anyone know what's happening? 

14 comments:

  1. What do you think? Same as contract negotiations. Bloomberg won't give us anything worthy taking...at all.

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  2. My understanding was that Chancellor Dennis Walcott did not get the Mayor's permission to propose it. Hence, the Chancellor's proposal was dropped.

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  3. oddly the ny times still has the article active even though it was always false

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  4. Why Nasty? You're paying her salary! I have to admit that I have also run into nasty phone operators at the UFT....Maybe it is a prerequisite for the job!

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  5. At this point in time..haven't we all learned this valuable lesson: you cannot....EVER...make a deal with a devil!

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  6. After it was proposed, the proposal was looked at and both sides realized it was stupid. It wasn't remotely enough money to convince those nowhere near retirement to leave. And there aren't enough teachers eligible to retire in the ATR to resolve the problem. In this economy people don't just give up paying jobs for a pittance.

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    1. Curious to know where you are getting this information from? As an ATR who is anxiously awaiting some specifics about the buyout, I am wondering what is fact and what is speculation?

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    2. Strange. I thought that the Chancellor only speaks after a thorough statistical analysis of all the relevant data, including a mathematical critique of all data that may be inaccurate, skewed, or simply fictitious. I know that's how he makes decisions regarding school closings, charter co-locations, and new curricula.

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    3. Don't you think we have the RIGHT to hear what the buyout is and decide for our selves?

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  7. I broadly agree with Anon 10:31 that after the Chancellor opened his mouth very few ATRs would be in a position to take $25,000 as a tradeoff for loss of their jobs. It would take a year's salary to encourage ATRs to quit, not a measely $25,000 Further, the Mayor never approved the Chancellor's proposal in the first place.

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    1. Where did you get the $25,000 figure?

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  8. It was all propaganda. I predicted in May there would be no buyout. Like anything in the DOE, it was said by the chancellor to create divisiveness within the teacher's union and its members. I am 37. Why would I take a buyout? Unless it is 3 million dollars tax free. You know that will not occur.

    September has potential to be a disaster. Thank God this is not a year round job

    I advise anyone who needs to contact the UFT to not call Brooklyn's office. They are the nastiest and most inept of any of the UFT offices. Queens and Manhattan are courteous, respectful and will return calls. Brooklyn will put you on hold and transfer your calls until you hang up

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    1. Actually, the woman I was directed to in Manhattan was abrupt and rude.

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  9. Only way you take a buyout is if you can collect a full pension. But figure after taxes, what will you take home?

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